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[swestrup]

I think Thunar just destroyed all of my music files. I was moving them from the backup to their new home using Thunar, since Konqueror kept crashing, and it seems to have only moved the directories, while deleting both the directories and the files from my backup drive. Tomorrow I'll see if anything is recoverable off the backup. (And I was doing a move, which is somewhat unsafe, I know, because every time Konqueror crashed I had to start over. At least with a move I could see how much I had done.)

Oh yeah, tell me how much better Linux is...

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[cloquewerk.livejournal.com]

Dude, with your luck, I can't believe any OS works for you. :) Seriously, I haven't had a tenth of your problems in all my years of Linux use combined. But I don't use Konqueror nor KDE at all, and I can't help but think that might be some of the problem. Either that or you have some subtle hardware issues or something...

[swestrup]

Well, its true that I tend to hit edge cases in OSes that others don't, mainly since I usually attempt to use all the configuration bells and whistles to make things look the way I want.

That said, I am still scratching my head over this one. I can't imagine how any file manager could do what Thunar did and not have it marked as a fatal bug...

[sps.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it really sounds like VFAT was failing silently, and that's most wicked bad.

Thunar

[henk.ca (from livejournal.com)]

I really don't understand, I use thunar as my main file manager and I think it's great! I don't remember it ever crashing on me. What version are you using?

Re: Thunar

[swestrup]

Thunar never crashed. It never gave ANY indication that things weren't working. I was moving my files from my NTFS backup to a VFAT partition for dual-use between windows and linux. Thunar failed to write the files to the destination, but erased the source anyway.

Re: Thunar

[swestrup]

BTW. This was Thunar .90 on an AMD64 system.

[sps.livejournal.com]

Ack!!! I mean, ack!!!

Also, ack.

This is, however, utterly the reverse of my experience (not that I've tried Thunar): under Windows I'm always a little afraid when I move files around. Indeed, I usually do it manually, one directory at a time, because something always goes wrong (if I'm lucky it's a requester that pops up in the middle and says "I've decided to stop doing what you asked somewhere in the middle" or perhaps a spontaneous update reboot - those ones lose context, but not, usually, data). Under Linux, I just expect it to do what I ask, and I only have to be careful to ask for the right thing.

I note, though, that if this problem occurred under Windows, it'd be Thunar that was blamed, not Windows. Somehow the fact that they pay money for the lumps makes people perceive Windows as more modular than Linux, when in fact it is less so.

[swestrup]

Oops. I replied to the main text rather than to you directly.

[swestrup]

Well, it may well be Thunar that's at fault, or it may be the vfat file system, or I dunno what.

And I have to confess I did the move under Linux rather than windows to avoid that very popup nonsense (and also because Linux file copy is about 10x faster than windows).

*sigh*

[kallisti.livejournal.com]

Your problem is the vfat system...Although it displays lower and upper case, it only stores the info in upper case in the FAT.Sot is easy to trash things because of that. Even NTFS has the same problem.

ttyl

[swestrup]

It wasn't an uppercase/lowercase collision that lost me my files (although that did cause me some problems. Neither Konqueror nor Thunar will copy to vfat a directory whose name is all caps.)

Besides, since I was copying FROM an NTFS filesystem, my files didn't have that sort of name collision.