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I need some advice, from all and sundry. First the background:

I'm not much of a networker, social or otherwise, and yet I've long known of the studies that say the best way to get a job, bar none, is by personal recommendation of someone who's seen your work. So, when a friend and old co-worker of mine invited me to join the LinkedIn Network several months ago, I did.

This is an invitation-only network of professionals who use the site to build networks of trust based on folks that they know personally. In other words, you are expected to invite other folks who you know who would either be willing to recommend your work, or you would be willing to recommend theirs. You do this by uploading your contact lists (e-mail addresses of folks you know), and then selecting who, if anyone, on that list you want to invite. It also tells you of anyone on your list who is already a member, and how many links away from them you are. You can elect to 'invite' someone who's already on the site, and if they accept you build a direct link to them.

Later, if you are looking for a job, or for someone to do a job for you, you can perform a search of the database and find folks. You can then send them a message via your network of links, and if everyone between you and them approves the message, they eventually get it. Thus, you have no way of finding out the e-mail address of anyone you don't already know, and the site itself claims that they make no use of the email addresses that you upload other than those you explicitly approve. (Their privacy policy is here.)

Then the question:

So, today I finally decided to trust them enough to upload a select list of e-mail addresses, to fill out my online address book. It turns out that the only person I know that is already on LinkedIn is Austin Hill, executive CEO of Zero Knowledge Systems. I had his e-mail address from some contract negotiations Pooq did with him years ago. So, I don't exactly know this person well, but I have no reason to think he has any negative memories of me. And he's clearly someone who believes in this networking thing, so I'm tempted to just invite him into my network. Still, when I first got my invite, I almost trashed it as spam, because its just not the sort of thing I usually join. Maybe I should be trying to change that behaviour though. I dunno.

Anyway, the BIG question in my mind is whether or not I should send invites to any of my friends, and what they would think about getting an invite message from LinkedIn that was originated by me. How many of you would resent it, or classify it as spam, and who would actually WANT to be invited into a social network like this? I'd like to hear from as many of you as possible, since I would like some statistics to help me judge whether or not to approach the folks who AREN'T on LJ that I might want to invite in.

Date: 2004-03-31 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denizsarikaya.livejournal.com
If that's truly how it works, I'd not be averse to joining. I'm wary of things which end up being like a dating tool.

And you know that I know Austin decently well, having worked and partied with him. Of course I know his brother Hammie even better -- I just don't believe I have their e-mail addresses on me any more. Wow, what an idiot I can be.

ask them first

Date: 2004-03-31 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drekken.livejournal.com
I useualy delete any email I wasnt expecting. I like this better then alot of the job hunting web sites out there because on the hireing end I know I would probably get somebody who can get the job done. Employment side, IT jobs are getting harder to find so this might be helpful in that aspect

Date: 2004-03-31 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azrhey.livejournal.com
i don't think any of you has seen me work :(

Date: 2004-03-31 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azrhey.livejournal.com
that's the problem.
It's not because I can do anything that I can do something.

In fact, I am good at pretending I can do anything.
The most obvious example was my trip to the UK, I got a bunch of papers I half read in the plane and got there and pretending I had a clue what I was talking about. So people were pleased I knew the project so well and ohh god you are so thorough in your presentation and I wanted to scream at them that they must be very stupid not to realize that three quarters of what I was saying was nice filling with no actual content. I mean those people are in the business for decades they should KNOW I was bullshitting them!...

So yeah I am good I pretending I am good, but what do I know ? What Can I do ? Ohh sure I have a big mouth and all but what can I do properly and professionaly ? Nothing really...

Date: 2004-03-31 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azrhey.livejournal.com
hmmm...so that made me feel all warm inside :-)

thank you.

still feel like i can't do shit...but I guess if THEY don't realize that it's good enough for now...

Date: 2004-03-31 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What I did was to phone some people and ask them if they'd be interested, and others, like yourself I just sent a message via Linked-In with a note added by myself. I only approached people who I knew might be interested (since I knew many people looking for work), and nobody seemed to get angry at all.
-Jim

Date: 2004-04-01 10:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
However, I did get only about a 50% success rate; I asked about fifteen people and only seven or eight joined up. One friend who didn't join up was the only one volunteering me job leads.
-Jim
http://www.geocities.com/jameswi.geo

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